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    July 9, 2013
    11:30 - 12:00pm PDT  

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rate. i'm hoping the commission will support that. >> before commissioner campos speaks, i want to make sure, commissioner vetore did you make a motion? >> yes. i would like to make it 11.5 in that resolution. >> in terms of a second for that would it need to come from a puc commissioner? >> do we have a commissioner that would like to second that motion? okay. we'll hold that for now. mr. campos? >> i know that we should probably turn to public comment because i think it's important to hear from the public. i want to note something about the labor piece and i know that for everyone of my colleagues, the response from labor is very
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important. and i have met with mr. stern and i know that he's here and i encourage the staff to continue the discussions that they have had with ibw and not just them, i did speak with paulson the director of labor council and we had a number of conversations about this and what we both agreed that irrespective of what happens today regarding rates that it's important for those discussions to continue. it's important for us to take those concerns into consideration and i know that they want to work with the puc, with lafco. again, i do believe that i'm a half glass full kind of person. i think that we have to continue those discussions and i think there is an opportunity for us especially given where the market is to figure out how we
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expand this program to make it look like something that everyone can buy into. >> thank you, commissioner campos. >> i would like to hear public comment as well and i would like to go on record with my sense of urgency in more of sort of a global perspective of this community choice program because i don't really think i mentioned that from a big picture perspective and i just hope that even if the motion does not get seconded or this vote does not happen today, that i can urge my fellow commissioners on the lafco and puc to move with this because we know we are faced with a changing climate and especially those from lowest income are
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going to suffer from the climate. i would ask that we do everything we can to reduce gas emissions. >> thank you. >> we can open this item for public comment. if i call your name please come up in the order that you are called. >> al weinberg, sue, jennifer , david. >>al left. >> thank you. i'm sue. first of
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all i want to agree with miss vetore. i think this is a global issue. we have a very sad i think lack of reducing emissions globally and i think as americans and especially san franciscans as we tend to lead the state and the country and the world we need to stop global emissions. i did calculations for expenses. for 2013, the median income is $71,000. average rate in san francisco one bedroom $2500 per month. if you take this out and subtract the state taxes for irs you get this income. if you have rent. it's a $30,000 per year, rent, you subtract
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$30,000 from $53,000. you still have $23,000. i do well, $17,000 i eat almost organic food. you still have $6,000 left in a year. this is what you could be paying for things like pg & e. i have $50 for pg & e. i can pay a thousand percent more for my pg & e bill and my expenses would not exceed my income. this is very minimal and it's our responsibility to do this. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> hello, thank you to the commissioner and staff for all the work that you have done here today. i think commissioner vetore is hitting
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it on the head. the most important thing for our planet is to pass this to show the rest of the country what it means to take a hundred percent renewable step into healing our planet. the clean power san francisco represents this reasonable and it gives the competitive cap. i think 11.5 is a good point because it's going to put a lot of public support around it. i'm a san francisco resident. i live in the city. i want to be part of something like this. like i think that's -- what i said before if we meet these climate goals set forth by the sf environment, it's going to be a great thing for all of us. thank you for your time. i
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think that's it for me. >> thank you, next speaker please. >> hi, my name is jennifer, i'm a resident of san francisco. i would like to say thank you to the commissioners and the staff for the work that you have done to reduce the not to exceed rates. i strongly urge that you complete the not to exceed rate so we can focus towards insuring the robust program. i would like to say that san francisco would give control over where we get electricity and renewable facilities which will be a long term resource for the city to bring down and stabilize cost for energy. thank you very much.
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>> thank you, next speaker, please. >> thank you for letting me talk today. i'm cameron, i'm a resident for four years. student at san francisco state studying environmental science. i really think that this is important step for san francisco to switch over from fossil fuels to renewable energy. it's renewable, it's local. it's clean energy. so clean power sf is in line with goals for san francisco to lower our greenhouse gas emissions and mediate these climate issues. the proposed rate is low and fair. it would be reasonable for even lower income residents. i believe that based on the outcome of the previous surveys that were done for the response to a much higher rate than what is proposed today that a vast majority of residents will be in favor of this program.
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renewable energy is more reliable and sustainable over the long-term and the rate is competitive and fair. i pass that rate today. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i will call more cards. hunter stern, jackson. >> i'm david mccord. the chair of the bay chapters energy committee sierra club. and we've had a long and productive process getting to this point. i want to thank the staff for their hard work to bring the not to exceed cap down to the level that is going to work. and now it's time to move ahead. if you implement green
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power san francisco and begin the build out of local renewable energy that will bring the city's carbon foot print down and create jobs for san franciscans. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> hi, hunter stern. san francisco resident and supporter of shell shock. so, three things: recs are not real green power. let me say that again, recs are not real green power. these are not my words. these are words of former general manager mr. ed harrington. he said this to this body three years ago. he said that consistently until the point that he retired. what was passed by the board last
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september was not a rec's based program. recs are energy, they don't create energy, they are not renewable in the sense that energy is not generated through recs. in fact, we, the ibw and labor in general has worked very hard to eliminate recs as much as we can because they don't produce electricity. in california where we have 20 percent of our energy coming from renewable sources currently and we are on our way to 33 percent, we don't need recs. they are not a viable approach. i must say we we were surprised when this proposal actually came through. recs don't contribute to work and jobs. as was mentioned the city is already generating electricity renewable locally and the information you heard in terms of commitment to local
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build out, we are now part of the san francisco labor council which approved a resolution and i did author it that supports community choice aggregation because it has to be done in a way to support workers. we are going to support workers but those elements are not yet in the plan and we will and we promised before and we'll promise here today to continue to work and make sure that happens. supervisor avalos. >> thank you very much. >> i have a question of the witness? >> he's not a witness. >> mr. stern, miss malcolm indicated that you haven't gotten back to her regularly as expected. >> i had a conversation with ken paulson, he didn't indicate that he had a chance to speak
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with miss malcolm. she and i did have a chance to speak directly earlier last month but i haven't had a call since then. the simplest way to put this, the one thing i heard -- >> i think you answered the question. as we move forward what i'm proposed is not a delay. 2-3 weeks is not going to destroy the planet. if there is no common ground, i get that and then i'm ready to vote. >> i this i the answer is there is opportunities for everybody to look at this as a job and environmental benefit. i don't think that recs even in the short-term accomplish that. thank you. >> just a question, commissioner term with your dialogue with labor here, >> former commissioner, sir >> but not a witness. >> if we were actually to
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continue a program that didn't include recs, is that mean there would be more labor support? >> look, the one thing that i did here that was positive that i considered to be very positive is the possibility of using hedgeey power, it's by local members. we absolutely support that. we support similar kinds of sourcing. >> does labor support condition on not having any recs? >> no, labor supports condition on having respect and inclusion of the principals that are not yet that were passed and supported by the whole labor community an are not yet part of the proposal that you are looking at today. >> okay. thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, dr. jackson.
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bay view hunters point. i didn't hear in the the very end of what i was here for and that was solar. i'm a supporter for the solar because of the fact as being a homeowner, low income for energy and the fact that my electric big is $3.14 a month. i would like to hear more talk about solar because i don't know where your energy is coming from. you are talking about bringing in because i asked this question some years ago and that's before a lot of these babies have gone up here and spoken when they are talking about energy. i'm setting up this committee. i asked the question. i said, i asked the question at the meeting in port row hills, i
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said who owns the line? they said pg & e. i said who owns the grid? they said pg & e. i said i'm going to be pg & e tonight because this is when this department was trying to put together peakers in my community and we fought against that. the thing of it is that i hope that you all make the decision because that is your responsibility. because i'm even concerned more about jobs, local hiring and this is one of the reasons that local hiring passed is because some of the unions did not local hiring to come forth to hire from the community. so i just want to say that you have a good job on your hand. >> thank you very much. next
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speaker, please. >> i want to begin by giving you a little bit of history because i represent the first people of this area. so, when the hatch valley was dammed by people in san francisco using their power so that we could use hydroelectricity and i know that most of you have not read the rick act of 1913. if we have electricity, we chose to sell it and now we need it. in
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all this deliberations this body, the joined body has not been sincere in defining the terminology like i stated in my initial remarks. you all want to shove this down our throats. talking about generality as if the world is going to end tomorrow and trying to talk for the people of the south sector that have suffered for over 65 years. the question is what type of power, what type of energy and how clean that will be and what will be the cost? if this city and county of san
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francisco has been truthful in having a meaningful dialogue, not really with labor, but with the community. i have been involved with this since 1998. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, my name is don battles with the san joaquin irrigation. i'm here to lend support for shell energy. shell seems to be taking some hard lumps in this situation. shell is a partner of ours. we have a 120 mega watt shell project. between shell and our
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partner at oak dale, we have had really good results with the shell product. prior to that time that shell took over in 2009, marketing our power, pg & e was the taker of that power and we have received many manyfold benefits from having shell market that power for us. that's ancillary services renewable energy. very very good products that we never received from pg & e. i wanted to tell you also that you keep talking about the pg & e workers. ibw 1245 pg & e workers, but many of the public utilities owned in california also have 1245 as their
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employees. i doubt that 1245 employees on the public side would be resisting a public agency such as yourself taking over a portion of pg & e's territory. >> thank you very much. i do believe that shell is also part of the western states petroleum association and if they are, we do buy power from them. we buy oil and fossil fuels from them in the county. next speaker, please. >> hi, my name is theodore. i work in san francisco. i'm against this proposal. to begin, plenty of people i have talked to have voted time and time again against the city turning our current utility public. why has this happened. you have already decided democratically. in the past we
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have struggled with a plethora of issues related to our electricity. let me tell you, change here is not welcomed. shouldn't the sf puc be worried about other issues, issues that are actually there. i'm talking about source, water mains, water transmission, they are shotty and they need to be up grated. where is sf puc focused? it's on clean energy and cost more to be delivered by shell. that is a step in the wrong direction. i said earlier that we voted against this public utility. that is not permission to give it to a company in texas under the guise of public power or renewable energy. what's going on here? when someone has to ask that question, it's time to
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rethink the proposal. thank you for your time. >> thank you. i have a few more cards. if there is a speaker waiting to come forward, please come forward. the next speaker is june, lydia dpree, mark, jed, jeff , brook wayne right. >> hi, thank you for your time. i'm with the local clean energy alliance. i'm here in support of all the potential that clean power sf has for the local development clean energy and local jobs and economic benefits for san francisco. i'm really glad to see everyone here today xhiltd committed to moving this program forward and very happy to see the not to
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exceed rate to come down to 11.5. i really appreciate all the hard work that lafco and the sf puc staff has done. it's really a victory for them and the groups that have worked with them to bring this rate down. we recognize this is a not to exceed rate. this is a cap. a cap that will protect customers from any future energy price bite. we think it's important to have that protection if place for customers and we are confident in our talks with sf puc staff and what we have in the region that the actual rate at launch will be much lower and even still and we've seen successes in places like paleo alto. that is not real today but it's
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promising of what might be coming in the future that will be possible for us. we look forward for working with the commission and staff and seeing what we can do to minimize the shell contract and add to it to build the local jobs that are so important. we are happy to hear people talk about and some of the advocates have been suggesting and that there may be opportunities and other ways that we can involve labor in how we expand this program and most importantly how we get new programs with -- >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. good morning. i'm lidda dpree. i come to you
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today as a consumer of electricity. i use it in my daily life and i also approach you as one who truly loves city of san francisco. leadership has been taking in moving us into a cleaner and more environmentally friendly form of electricity to be consumed within the 70 miles in san francisco and let this program be a living document that will grow over time as improvements are made. but let us take action now so we can give people that option sooner instead of later. we can show this world, not just for people
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who live here, but for people who visit here, show this is a reason to come to san francisco and a reason to invest in this great city to bring jobs and entrepreneurs and thinkers and investors into this wonderful city that i love so much and thank you. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> hello, thank you for taking public comment on this issue. my name is mark caesar and i'm here today representing organizing for action the 501 c 4 promoting action on the agenda that most voters voted for in 2012. climate change is one of those issues as you know president obama has recently brought climate change to the forefront of his agenda and the clean power sf program would
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align well with that agenda if it is successful and that means if the not to exceed rate is reasonable and there is a robust local build out of that program. we would encourage you to set the rate at the lowest level and implement a local build out as much as possible. as a resident from san francisco with solar on my rooftop with water and pd, i would suggest you do this as quickly as possible. and frankly i'm an appalled that there with be an unwillingness on your part, mr. torres, to vote on this. because clearly there are -- >> unwillingness today. >> and i'm clear that the only benefit i can see from delaying is that it gives basically pg & e another couple three weeks to
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attack this program. it seems to me that all of the issues on with respect to labor unions can be resolved even if you do vote on this today and i would suggest with the other that yourself reconsider that position. as a resident and voter here and a consumer here, we need to get this done as soon as possible and there should be no delays. i request that there be none. thank you. >> thank you very much, next speaker please. i pay pg & e $40.04. my
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bill has been reduced in half. i would like to see this put the into effect so everybody has that benefit. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker please. >> hello, commissioners, thank you for the opportunity to speak. my name is jeff hol son. i'm a resident here and represent an advocacy group. i would like to thank the staff. i see the 11.5 cent rate already in this resolution.